Do you carry a firearm in your RV?

[hammersley]

Don't EVER Forget and take one into MEXICO!!!!

They'll Keep IT AND YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Firearms Arrests in Mexico - Press Release



U. S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE

Bureau of Consular Affairs

For Immediate Release

July 21, 1999



Many U. S. citizens may be planning to take a trip to Mexico during this busy summer travel season. The Department of State wishes to alert gun owners to leave their guns at home when they go to Mexico. Mexico has severe penalties for taking in any type of firearm, weapon, or ammunition without first obtaining written authorization from Mexican authorities. It does not matter whether U. S. citizens are licensed to carry the firearm in the United States, or if they unintentionally transport it while driving in their vehicle, or have it in their luggage while traveling by commercial or private plane or boat. It also does not matter if visitors to Mexico are U. S. law enforcement or military officials. Mexican authorities strictly enforce laws restricting the entry of firearms and ammunition along their borders and at air or seaports.



Each year dozens of Americans are arrested or fined in Mexico in connection with weapons violations. About 35 U. S. citizens are currently incarcerated in Mexican prisons on weapons-related charges. Many of them inadvertently transported a firearm that they were licensed to carry in the United States without realizing they were violating Mexican laws. Some were driving across the border for a day visit, to shop or to eat in a restaurant. Remember that if caught bringing in a firearm, ammunition, or other weapon, Mexican authorities may confiscate a visitor''s vehicle or other personal property and place the individual under arrest. Detained Americans may spend months in pre-trial detention while their case is being investigated. If convicted, they may face several years in a Mexican prison. While the U. S. consul can visit U. S. citizens in jail, make sure that they are being treated humanely, and provide a list of attorneys to assist with the Mexican judicial process, the U. S. consul cannot get U. S. citizens released from jail. .



U. S. citizens who approach Mexico along the land border or who arrive by boat should check carefully to ensure that someone else has not left weapons or ammunition in the vehicle or boat. If U. S. citizen visitors realize they are in possession of firearms, ammunition, or other weapons, they should not proceed into Mexico. They should not attempt to enter Mexico - even to turn around - or go through Mexican Customs. All land border crossings have pull-offs or turnarounds on the U. S. side. The only way to legally import firearms and ammunition into Mexico is to secure a permit in advance from the Mexican Embassy in Washington, D. C. or from a Mexican Consulate in the United States. Mariners who have obtained a Mexican firearm permit should contact Mexican port officials before attempting to enter Mexican waters, to learn about specific procedures to report and secure weapons and ammunition.



The Department of State''s December 1998 Public Announcement warns U. S. citizens about transporting firearms to Mexico -- its advice remains valid.



U. S. citizens are reminded not to make a jail stay part of their travels! Instead, they should learn the laws for Mexico or any other country they plan to visit. For the latest information on travel to Mexico or other countries, consult the Bureau of Consular Affairs'' home page on the Internet at http://travel.state.gov.



Consular Affairs Link

 

[MMeier]

I feel sorry for the individual who trys this to me.

Trust me, I won't feel sorry for some POS that tries to take something from me that I busted my marbles for!! Sayonara, m'f'er!!

 

[NVR FNSH]

I really don't care what the rules are from state to state. If you travel anywhere around the states and don't carry a weapon, you're a fool. I've been traveling with my family in our trailer for years and have always had guns in the trailer, truck and the car. I've meet many people in different RV parks around the US and alot of them have been robbed during their travels. Every one of them said "If I only had a gun this would have never happened". I feel sorry for the individual who trys this to me.

The concealed gun in the truck/car may get you taken out of the vehicle at gun point by an officer - we've done it to several AirSofter's because we didn't know what we had.....



I'm all for citizen's carrying but if I come up on your car at a traffic stop and see a gun w/o you telling me about it you are going to have my gun in your ear. And then we'll figure out the proper way for you to transport the gun while in Ca if you don't have a valid CCW permit.



Yes, I carry when towing the RV Amongst other times.....



Brian

 

[AMink]

To bad we don't regulate our laws on what comes from Mexico as strictly as they enforce their's! Going in to California, Cook County, etc. is a crap shoot too. You'd better have a list in CA of what is considered verboten and don't even bother in Cook County. Unfortunately, campgrounds are a haven for those who like to take advantage of others. There are many documented cases of robberies, homicides, rapes, property damage, etc. that take place even in nice campgrounds. It's a sad commentary on what's going on in this country. My . 02 worth before I get sent off to the Political Forum!

 

[Donn]

Well I guess I'll be careful where I travel, and The only good thing that comes out of Mexico is our Dodge Trucks

 

[Mtngoat]

I've been in Law Enforcement my entire adult life, 1572 days till I retire!! I used to never have a firearm with me off duty, never saw the need. But the way things are going, I have been throwing it in a drawer in the motorhome or in the console of the truck and forget about it. And its not a problem. It becomes a problem when people start advertising they are "packing" and are always showing it to people. Put it in a good hiding spot, and let it be, you won't get caught with it unless the law is searching your vehicle for some other reason.

Robin

 

[CLAYTON]

If the firearm remains in the trailer while traveling you can have the gun/shotgun/rifle loaded can't you?

 

[PHuckleberry]

The answer I need wasn't listed. Always take at least 2, that way if you split up for any reason nobody is unarmed.

 

[DanWilson]

Constitution

What part of "shall not be infringed" do ya'll not comprende?

 

[The patriot]

If the firearm remains in the trailer while traveling you can have the gun/shotgun/rifle loaded can't you?

An unloaded firearm aint much good... is it?

I keep the magazine full and an empty chamber in the shotgun in the trailer.

I used to keep all guns in "condition 1", but the wife didnt like that too much. She sleepwalks and was afraid she might decide to use it/them in her sleep.

1911= Condition 1. Any other way is unsafe with this gun.

Sig P228 = Condition 2.

Condition 3=Everything else that may be used around the house/trailer.



People with children should decide for themselves how to store their firearms.

Eric



Ps To answer your question. Legal wise? I have no idea.

 

[CLAYTON]

Results as of now...

looks like 87. 89% of the people take firearms with them all of the time or some of the time if they own one (or two+ for some of you ) or if they were to get one in the future. That's higher then I thought it would be.

 

[nps]

If I carry more than one, can I vote more than once?

 

[KLockliear]

Each year dozens of Americans are arrested or fined in Mexico in connection with weapons violations.

One more reason you couldn't PAY me to leave the US. Why bother? We have everything here.

 

[exfuzz01]

Packing heat

The best thing to remember is that ... unless you know how and when to use one... . don't carry it.

 

[klenger]

Clayton: I suspect that the results of this poll are not scientifically accurate. The very nature of a poll like this is much more likely to get a response from gun owners than from non gun owners. At this moment, there are 117 votes with only 9 (13%) that state they do not own a gun. I don't think those numbers represent the general public or the typical TDR member, but I couild be wrong.



In spite my comments above, I too am surprised at the high numbers for option 1.

 

[AMink]

I'm glad to see the results. Now for the $10,000 question- are those who carry their guns with them members of the NRA? It's getting tighter to own and carry in some places, somewhat easier in others. I realize that some feel the NRA is a "fringe" group supporting "gun nuts", but it is the biggest, most vocal group supporting what's left of our rights. Hillary in '08? Hang on with both hands! That's gun control! Sorry to get a little off the thread, but this is one of my passions. Thanks.

 

[TRAMPLINEMAN]

NRA member here. Gun control is hitting what you're shooting at. I love defenseless animals, especially in a good gravy!!

 

[CLAYTON]

Clayton: I suspect that the results of this poll are not scientifically accurate. The very nature of a poll like this is much more likely to get a response from gun owners than from non gun owners. At this moment, there are 117 votes with only 9 (13%) that state they do not own a gun. I don't think those numbers represent the general public or the typical TDR member, but I couild be wrong.



In spite my comments above, I too am surprised at the high numbers for option 1.

I realize that this doesn't represent the general public... just most of us crazy TDR members :-laf I guess the lesson that we can learn with this thread is don't mess with members of the TDR

 

[cmsgun]

Carry firearm - YES

Had our 04. 5 2500 on the first road trip coming back from Sedona Az by way of Lake Havasu. Decided to overnight in Twentynine Palms so we were traveling Hwy 95. It was a Sunday evening and just getting dark, traffic was heavy with the LA crowd in a hurry to get home. Looked in the rear-view mirror and saw some guy about 5 cars back weaving in and out and trying to pass. About the time I turn onto Hwy 62 he's two cars back. The car behind me shoots around us and is out of sight in no time. The guy who was weaving is now right behind me flashing his lilghts, trying to pull around me... so I slow down and pull to the right. No real need because we're the only two vehicles in the middle of nowhere. He slows down and is pacing me and I decide stopping is not an option. Kicked it back up to 55. He's on my butt doing the same weaving and flashing, pacing me and weaving more... . I slow to let him pass but he doesn't so I decide to try going faster. Kicked it up to about 70 and he's still at it. This goes on for about 3 or 4 minues while the wife is digging for the cell phone. He backs off a ways then speeds up and races past us and about a 1/4 mile in front of me locks em up and slides sideways like he's trying to block the road. No problem getting around him there's plenty of road and even more shoulder. As I passed him I got enough of a description and plate number and had the wife getting the 911 operator on the phone. First words out of the operators mouth was this is a case of road rage and what did I do to provoke it!!!!! Gave her about half of what I had of a description before we lost signal..... so much for our lifeline. The whole thing went on for another ten minutes that felt like a couple hours. I hated to do it but 80-85 in my brand new, with less than 1000 miles Dodge, was more than his piece of junk car could keep up with - we gradually put some distance between us and him. He finally quit and turned around. Still not a soul in sight until we got into Twentynine Palms. Called the 911 operator back... she took the description but thats all they were going to do. Don't know who I was more mad at - the 911 people or the guy in the care. So, the short answer is... . heck yes - I'm carrying a firearm from now on!

 

[KLockliear]

Now for the $10,000 question- are those who carry their guns with them members of the NRA?

Life member since the mid 90's.